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Re: Researching for new kayaks... Holy overload!

Postby pikecreek » Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:06 pm

ThrillsOnGills wrote:Well im looking for a new kayak for the spring. i fish inland lakes in oakland county and im looking far a stable platform i can fly and sight fish from. i normally just throw my kayak in the back of the truck and go after work so im trying to find a balance between stability and portability. i saw the hobie PA 14 and the native propel 10, i like the idea of pedalling over paddling but how portable are they? what paddle kayak options do i have? ive fished a lot of windy days at the end of the season and i thought pedaling would keep me a little more hands free. any thoughts or insight would be a huge help.


You are correct that you will spend more time on the water pedaling than paddling.

If I am comprehending your post properly, your main concern is portability of a pedal kayak.

I originally owned a Hobie Adventure (2007 spring) and later bought the Hobie Revolution 13 (2007 fall). This was at a time where both these kayaks were under 80 lbs. I had no problem putting them up on top of my truck. A few years later I also bought and car topped a, Native Ultimate 14.5, Jackson Big Tuna, and Wilderness Ride 135. They were not any easier to car top than my Hobie Adventure or Revolution, the Big Tuna and Ride 135 were actually more difficult.

When I received my first PA12 in 2012 I started putting it in back of my Chev Avalanche which is a short bed truck. Using a HObie Heavy Duty Wheel Cart it was much easier than car topping when all you did was use two straps to clinch to your truck bed. When I ordered a PA14 I made the mistake of purchasing a bed extender thinking that i would be too long for the bed. I was wrong and still have a brand new Boonedox Bed Extender sitting in my garage 3 years later. The PA14 is very easy to load on the tailgate and then slide into the truck. Using the truck bed is easier, and faster than when I would car top.

Since you seem to have already decided on a pedal kayak I will add my observations.

It is no secret that I prefer Hobie Mirage Kayaks but I tried 3 different brands of paddle kayaks and demoed the Native propel at one time also. The only advantage the Propel has is "REVERSE" and there are a few applications on the water that you can't beat that feature. But, does that outweigh the advantage of the Mirage Drive where, I can cut through grass, shallow water is not a problem, never been tangled where I have lost a fish or broke off. Damage to a Mirage Drive is very minimal and when it does happen is not an expensive fix, parts are available and you can repair it yourself without being a mechanic.

There isn't a more stable kayak than the Hobie PA14 and if price is an issue the Hobie Outback is still a great option for you.

If you are still not sure, come to the Detroit Boat Show and have a 2nd look at the kayaks.
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Re: Researching for new kayaks... Holy overload!

Postby Gogu392 » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:36 am

"Well im looking for a new kayak for the spring. i fish inland lakes in oakland county and im looking far a stable platform i can fly and sight fish from. i normally just throw my kayak in the back of the truck and go after work so im trying to find a balance between stability and portability."

For your needs the best fit is a Wavewalk 500.
Check this two reviews of fly fishing and hunting.

Good for fishing and Fly Fishing :
http://wavewalk.com/blog/2015/10/25/first-fly-fishing-trip-lasted-5-12-hours/

http://wavewalk.com/blog/2015/12/22/tis-the-season-and-a-dancing-bass-story/

Good for hunting:
http://wavewalk.com/blog/2016/01/01/gre ... ting-boat/

I do own two Wavewalks 500 and I am looking to buy another W700.
Best water craft to handle small or big water, best craft to motorise if you want or need.
You can use it with just the paddle or motor (electric or gas).I use them for 5 years by now.
The easiest kayak to launch and car port.

I use same kayak Wavewalk 500 on shallow river (with no motor, just paddle) to hunt steelhead and to troll on Ontario lake 4-5 km off shore (with electric or gas motor).

Feel free to PM me if you need more details.
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Re: Researching for new kayaks... Holy overload!

Postby ThrillsOnGills » Thu Jan 28, 2016 6:33 pm

That danged ole YouTube makes me want to hold out for the PA 14. Hopefully I can find some "closeouts" or some used ones. Anyone getting out of the hobie kayak game? Haha

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Postby tmoua11 » Sat Jan 30, 2016 1:20 pm

Wonderful topic and much needed info!

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Re: Researching for new kayaks... Holy overload!

Postby Kayak Dave » Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:05 am

ThrillsOnGills wrote:That danged ole YouTube makes me want to hold out for the PA 14. Hopefully I can find some "closeouts" or some used ones. Anyone getting out of the hobie kayak game? Haha


You wont be disappointed with a Pro Angler. The only people getting out of a Hobie are the ones getting into a newer model. And used ones sell fast.

As for Reverse in a Hobie. Here is a little secret very few people know..........The Mirage drive can be installed backwards and therefore you can pedal in reverse. It not exactly efficient to switch the mirage drive back and forth while fishing but it is quite doable and has saved me a number of times.

I have many more Hobie Tips, Tricks and Knowledge that Id be willing to share, but it would cost you a coffee at a launch site. I could even let you Demo a Hobie. ;)
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Postby EricBriggs » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:44 pm

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Re: Researching for new kayaks... Holy overload!

Postby ThrillsOnGills » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:16 am

Do you take cream or sugar? Ha-ha. I will gladly take you up on that offer as soon as ice clears! Thank you.

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Re: Researching for new kayaks... Holy overload!

Postby Gogu392 » Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:08 pm

Best kayak to throw in the back of your truck is the Wavewalk.
I throw mine in a Dodge Caravan inside after I stow the seats.
The weight f the kayak is 57Lb (27Kg), lot of storage perfect for small or big water.
I own two of the W500 planning to buy and a W700 for family trips (tandem).
Check below links:

http://wavewalk.com/blog/wp-content/upl ... oulder.jpg

http://wavewalk.com/blog/2015/12/22/tis ... ass-story/

http://wavewalk.com/blog/tag/fishing-kayaks/

Feel free to ask me if you have questions.
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